Is a hybrid SUV even serious?
October 25, 2009 in Alternative Fuel Vehicles
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ricks questioned:
In the full size translation of these vehicles, they say they get about 25% better miliage. On one of these that only gets 14mpg for model (which is about on the high average), thats an bonus 3.5 mpg.
So you get 17.5 mpg. Is that value it? When you equate the bonus cost of a hybrid engine vs. a fixed gas one, is it just a bit absurd (which I am sure many will use that defense to not buy the hybrid translation)? We probably may maybe get that savings in just slowing down & maintaining our cars by the book.
Dont get me incorrect, I am not a SUV hater. I like them! But it just seems like they may maybe try harder than that. One condition I read says it may maybe make those on the fence about SUVs, come on over b/c they are making them better with less guilt.
Yes, 25% is subdue 25%, but if it didnt come with the much privileged cost (probably about 25%), it may maybe be evenhanded that something is life done for the background. It nearly seems like a deterent.
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thats what I said. I am refering to full sized ones (Housing, Tahoe, Blazer, Escalde), not the small/intersect type.
Noone N: I never told anyone what to do! I am asking opinions. Handbook what you want.
mystikreaper: excellent top. I saw Customers Report earlier this year & they say the small difference in the hybrid translation vs. the gas translation of the same model (not comparing Prius to Pleasure trip), it is not cost effectual due to the cost difference. Not adage its not more fuel efficient–just not cost effiecient–importance how much you save to recoupe the difference in price.
benzcruiser:gold star for your investigate! But I will have to clash on why we make them. They do offer an uncommon (as top surprise as it is) to what here is. Its a start.
Ilovegm:excelent. As I said 25 is 25 & is better than none.
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It makes a larger difference in smaller SUVs. You’re forgetting that not all SUVs are generous gas guzzlers. I handbook a Jeep Compass, which already gets 28mpg; a hybrid engine may maybe up that to 35-40mpg.
I reflect that the new hybrid engines for the better SUVs are a excellent business even if, in view of the fact that it’s developing the equipment. Maybe it doesn’t make much of a difference now, but perhaps before long on it will.
No sow a tree
If that is what you want, then you must buy one. If not then buy something else. But, it’s non of your business what a name else chooses to handbook.
I agree. Why would I get a hybrid that gets less MPG than many ordinary gas or diesel models and expenditure more? How does that help anything?
Hybrids are subdue cost prohibitive and have not been around long ample to say whether here will be any savings due to the cut-rate maintenance expenditure but with the on the rise gas prices any mpg boost may end up life caring in the long run.
I am subdue unsure why ‘we’ even scare to look at/ develop Hybrid vehicles as a form of transportation. It is a splendid exposure stunt! These were developed to make gas go additional but, why not look at the entire carbon trace and additional alternatives?
The batteries last about 7 being and then you need a total new set!. Batteries in Hybrids are often Nickel Metal Hydride even if I have seen lead acid batteries installed. Lead acid weigh much more than NiMh so the handbook wants to be better to drag along more consequence. The energy to make these batteries, then dispose of them far outweighs any benefit of installing the batteries in the first place. Substitution batteries cost between NZ$8,000 and NZ$14,500 to exchange.
At this top in the Universe, a well tuned diesel is much better on the background and the fuel state is also here. The bestow ‘run of the mill rail’ diesel engines are a very splendid motor and when you gather to handbook them, they are fantastic. So as far as hybrids go, a re-culture curriculum on the benefits wants to be really looked at.
here is modest top adding an infernal combustion engine to an SUV
Gripping has far better torque characteristics (pulling potential). It is even possible to place motors in each veer, avoiding low ground clearance diffs, low efficiency, high maintenance 4×4 transmissions. Li-ion batteries will probably last the time of teh car, >12 being, are completely ecological (and Get out of the current costly patent restrictions on NiMH forced by the owning oil co)
Hybrids are just a calming to the ancient auto industry that can’t be with you “new” dreams, (gripping cars have been around outperforming fossil fuel for >100 being )
The ancient pony & cart industry had a similar attitude to horseless caridges when they appeared, very few carrige or pony breeders converted sucessfully to the new industry
each mpg saved is each mpg counted.
Of course it’s serious.
It’s a serious exposure ploy.
But let’s be honest about battery recycling. ALL batteries Must be recycled. And as the equipment improves, the cost WILL go down. So let’s stop pretending that they are a terrible thought. We’ve been recycling batteries for over 5 decades. These WILL get handled.
Better vehicles are harder to make efficient. May maybe you infer a jumbo jet humanizing efficiency by 25%? Boeing has poured their sensitivity and soul into the redesigned 747, and it’s only about 13% more efficient than the models designed 20 being ago.
Also a 25% gain in fuel state is far more significant in an SUV than a car. Say one car uses 10 gallons a month, and another uses 100. If you improved the fuel state by 50% on both, you would only save 5 gallons in car one, while in car 2 you would save 50 gallons.
By the way the GM full size hybrids get better than 17 MPG. The Tahoe / Yukon get about 17 with the stand lonely gas engine (which is best in rank). So these Hybrids must get around 22 MPG. And I judge edmunds had a opportunity to test one, and that’s about what they got. That’s significant. The much smaller Toyota Camry only does about 2 MPG better.
All you have to do is choose a Honda Pilot (about 21 mpg highway) or a Honda CRV (mine averages about 26mpg).
You make a valid top that hybrid SUVs subdue aren’t very environmentally friendly (they get about the same mileage as a habitual sedan). But, for public who need an SUV (like if they need to tow material), a hybrid SUV can be a clad selection.
Equate the Ford Escape to its hybrid translation (evaluation associated below). The hybrid translation gets about 30 mpg while the fixed translation only gets 22 mpg. That’s about a 36% enhancement, which isn’t too dilapidated. The bonus cost is about $6000.
The Civic hybrid only improves mileage to 50 mpg (EPA estimated) from 35 mpg of the habitual translation, which is a 43% enhancement, so that’s not too much more than the Escape.