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	<title>Comments on: I have been trying to save up for early 1998 Toyota Prius Hybrid?</title>
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		<title>By: Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BMW 3 series is going green

It is diesel and is supposed to get several more miles to the gallon than the Prius. Go to and go to the article about the BMW 3 series going green. It will be on the market in September.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><p>&#84;&#104;&#101; BMW 3 &#114;&#117;&#110; &#105;&#115; inane green</p>
<p>&#73;&#116; &#105;&#115; diesel &#97;&#110;&#100; &#105;&#115; held &#116;&#111; &#103;&#101;&#116; several more miles &#116;&#111; &#116;&#104;&#101; gallon &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; Prius. &#71;&#111; &#116;&#111; &#97;&#110;&#100; &#103;&#111; &#116;&#111; &#116;&#104;&#101; condition &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; BMW 3 &#114;&#117;&#110; inane green. &#73;&#116; &#119;&#105;&#108;&#108; &#98;&#101; &#111;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; market &#105;&#110; September.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dual fuel brumby sounds interesting petrol / LPG ? This should prove to be quite stingy on the juice. (Low on co2 emissions)  Added bonus it is a ute and 4wd. Both good features for touring Australia.

I have only rough figures on LPG but it looks about 20% less co2 /km than petrol. (Figures calculated from a carbon footprint site).

This could also prove a good vehicle to do a hybrid /battery electric conversion. Plenty of room under the tray for batteries. Maybe throw on a generator for the longer trips.

The Prius has a good reputation so I wouldn&#039;t be too concerned about reliability. If the batteries do give you grief you can still get around with just the petrol motor. It would be a good excuse to get the lithium ion upgrade. (expense)

Some Prius listed here for sale (and two wrecks parts maybe)

Other things to factor in 

Prius four seats (squashy five)  Brumby two. Prius gets better economy around town than on the highway. The petrol motor runs continuously at highway speeds. 

Article in current RACQ (Queensland&#039;s RACV). States fire authorities will confiscate home bio diesel equipment. Very time consuming anyway. The older diesel sedans aren&#039;t that economical in comparison to the new ones. Gemini diesel (1980s) was around 7.2 L/100km

Petrol emits 2.32 kg co2/Litre
Diesel emits 2.66 kg co2/Litre

Summary.
 The brumby is probably going to give more options later on and leave more dollars in your pocket now. (Important to a Uni Student). Will almost match an early prius for co2 emissions.

The Prius will really shine in heavy Melbourne traffic.  Quite good on highway. More Technologically appealing to a renewable energy student.

Either car a good choice. Your money you decide

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P.s. Found some info on LPG It emits 1.6kg co2/ litre. You will use more litres /km. The 20% improvement 

They have petrol at 2.4 and diesel at 2.7 (close enough for me)

You can still go Prius as you can see above you should be able to get you fingers on spare batteries if needed.There should be a plug in kit for it in a few years time.


The ultimate environmental machine is the bicycle virtually no co2 emissions. (my choice as often as possible)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><p>&#84;&#104;&#101; dual fuel brumby sounds appealing gas / LPG ? &#84;&#104;&#105;&#115; &#109;&#117;&#115;&#116; prove &#116;&#111; &#98;&#101; reasonably stingy &#111;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; juice. (Low &#111;&#110; co2 emissions)  Added bonus &#105;&#116; &#105;&#115; a ute &#97;&#110;&#100; 4wd. Both &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; facial appearance &#102;&#111;&#114; touring Australia.</p>
<p>I &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#111;&#110;&#108;&#121; approximate figures &#111;&#110; LPG &#98;&#117;&#116; &#105;&#116; looks &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; 20% less co2 /km &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; gas. (Figures calculated &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; a carbon trace site).</p>
<p>&#84;&#104;&#105;&#115; &#109;&#97;&#121; maybe &#97;&#108;&#115;&#111; prove a &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; vehicle &#116;&#111; &#100;&#111; a hybrid /battery gripping conversion. Bounty &#111;&#102; room below &#116;&#104;&#101; tray &#102;&#111;&#114; batteries. Maybe toss &#111;&#110; a generator &#102;&#111;&#114; &#116;&#104;&#101; longer trips.</p>
<p>&#84;&#104;&#101; Prius &#104;&#97;&#115; a &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; reputation &#115;&#111; I wouldn&#8217;t &#98;&#101; &#116;&#111;&#111; concerned &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; reliability. &#73;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; batteries &#100;&#111; give &#121;&#111;&#117; grief &#121;&#111;&#117; &#99;&#97;&#110; subdue &#103;&#101;&#116; around &#119;&#105;&#116;&#104; &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; gas motor. &#73;&#116; &#119;&#111;&#117;&#108;&#100; &#98;&#101; a &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; defense &#116;&#111; &#103;&#101;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; lithium ion upgrade. (expense)</p>
<p>&#83;&#111;&#109;&#101; Prius &#112;&#108;&#111;&#116;&#116;&#101;&#100; here &#102;&#111;&#114; sale (&#97;&#110;&#100; two wrecks &#112;&#97;&#114;&#116;&#115; maybe)</p>
<p>Additional equipment &#116;&#111; factor &#105;&#110; </p>
<p>Prius four seats (springy five)  Brumby two. Prius gets better state around town &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; &#111;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; highway. &#84;&#104;&#101; gas motor runs continuously &#97;&#116; highway speeds. </p>
<p>Condition &#105;&#110; current RACQ (Queensland&#8217;s RACV). States fire creation &#119;&#105;&#108;&#108; appropriate home bio diesel equipment. Very time consuming anyway. &#84;&#104;&#101; older diesel sedans aren&#8217;t &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; economical &#105;&#110; evaluation &#116;&#111; &#116;&#104;&#101; &#110;&#101;&#119; ones. Gemini diesel (1980s) &#119;&#97;&#115; around 7.2 L/100km</p>
<p>Gas emits 2.32 kg co2/Litre<br />
Diesel emits 2.66 kg co2/Litre</p>
<p>Summary.<br />
 &#84;&#104;&#101; brumby &#105;&#115; probably inane &#116;&#111; give more options before long &#111;&#110; &#97;&#110;&#100; &#112;&#108;&#97;&#99;&#101; more dollars &#105;&#110; &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; pocket now. (Vital &#116;&#111; a Uni Apprentice). &#87;&#105;&#108;&#108; nearly contest &#97;&#110; ahead &#111;&#102; schedule prius &#102;&#111;&#114; co2 emissions.</p>
<p>&#84;&#104;&#101; Prius &#119;&#105;&#108;&#108; really shine &#105;&#110; heavy Melbourne conveying.  Reasonably &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; &#111;&#110; highway. More Mechanically appealing &#116;&#111; a renewable energy apprentice.</p>
<p>&#65;&#110;&#121; car a &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; extent. &#89;&#111;&#117;&#114; cash &#121;&#111;&#117; affect</p>
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<p>P.s. Found &#115;&#111;&#109;&#101; info &#111;&#110; LPG &#73;&#116; emits 1.6kg co2/ litre. &#89;&#111;&#117; &#119;&#105;&#108;&#108; &#117;&#115;&#101; more litres /km. &#84;&#104;&#101; 20% enhancement </p>
<p>&#84;&#104;&#101;&#121; &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; gas &#97;&#116; 2.4 &#97;&#110;&#100; diesel &#97;&#116; 2.7 (&#97;&#99;&#99;&#117;&#114;&#97;&#116;&#101; ample &#102;&#111;&#114; &#109;&#101;)</p>
<p>&#89;&#111;&#117; &#99;&#97;&#110; subdue &#103;&#111; Prius &#97;&#115; &#121;&#111;&#117; &#99;&#97;&#110; see privileged &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; &#121;&#111;&#117; &#109;&#117;&#115;&#116; &#98;&#101; &#97;&#98;&#108;&#101; &#116;&#111; &#103;&#101;&#116; &#121;&#111;&#117; fingers &#111;&#110; emergency batteries &#105;&#102; looked-&#102;&#111;&#114;.Here &#109;&#117;&#115;&#116; &#98;&#101; a plug &#105;&#110; kit &#102;&#111;&#114; &#105;&#116; &#105;&#110; a few being time.</p>
<p>&#84;&#104;&#101; essential environmental apparatus &#105;&#115; &#116;&#104;&#101; bicycle effectively &#110;&#111; co2 emissions. (&#109;&#121; extent &#97;&#115; &#111;&#102;&#116;&#101;&#110; &#97;&#115; possible)</p>
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		<title>By: llordlloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>llordlloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t feel you have to get a hybrid to be responsible- the battery issues were mostly hype and most automotive sources suggest they will last the life of the car... but still those batteries have to be produced and disposed of.

If you simply buy a small car (or a scooter/small motorcycle) and keep it in good condition, you will be doing far more than most people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><p>Don&#8217;t feel &#121;&#111;&#117; &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#116;&#111; &#103;&#101;&#116; a hybrid &#116;&#111; &#98;&#101; responsible- &#116;&#104;&#101; battery issues &#119;&#101;&#114;&#101; frequently hype &#97;&#110;&#100; &#109;&#111;&#115;&#116; automotive sources recommend &#116;&#104;&#101;&#121; &#119;&#105;&#108;&#108; last &#116;&#104;&#101; life &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; car&#8230; &#98;&#117;&#116; subdue those batteries &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#116;&#111; &#98;&#101; &#98;&#101;&#110;&#116; &#97;&#110;&#100; disposed &#111;&#102;.</p>
<p>&#73;&#102; &#121;&#111;&#117; austerely &#98;&#117;&#121; a small car (&#111;&#114; a scooter/small dirt bike) &#97;&#110;&#100; keep &#105;&#116; &#105;&#110; &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; condition, &#121;&#111;&#117; &#119;&#105;&#108;&#108; &#98;&#101; doing far more &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; &#109;&#111;&#115;&#116; public.</p>
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		<title>By: ioerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>ioerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d get a diesel.  There&#039;s some older models that get mileage not much lower than hybrids, they won&#039;t cost nearly as much to buy, diesels can be very reliable engines and yes they can be converted to run on vegetable oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><p>I&#8217;d &#103;&#101;&#116; a diesel.  Here&#8217;s &#115;&#111;&#109;&#101; older models &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#103;&#101;&#116; mileage &#110;&#111;&#116; much lower &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; hybrids, &#116;&#104;&#101;&#121; won&#8217;t cost near &#97;&#115; much &#116;&#111; &#98;&#117;&#121;, diesels &#99;&#97;&#110; &#98;&#101; very reliable engines &#97;&#110;&#100; yes &#116;&#104;&#101;&#121; &#99;&#97;&#110; &#98;&#101; converted &#116;&#111; &#114;&#117;&#110; &#111;&#110; vegetable oil.</p>
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